Questions?
Chancellor Biddy Martin would like to hear from you about the Madison Initiative. Please give us your feedback.
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What about students who pay their own tuition?
My parents make over $80,000 a year but do not pay any of my tuition or living expenses. How are you going to make this affordable for students like me who would not be eligible for grants but would impacted greatly by this increase?
304 votes
AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: Undergraduate students who qualify as independent students for federal financial aid purposes will have only their income (and their spouse’s income, if married) considered when determining income for eligibility for the hold-harmless grant that will be given to students with family income under $80,000.
For students who do not qualify as independent students, fill out a FAFSA to see if you meet eligibility requirements. Visit the Office of Student Financial Aid, http://www.finaid.wisc.edu.
Keep in mind, the grant to hold harmless eligible students from families making under $80,000 is only one piece of a total aid package available from federal and state sources.
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How is this different from COE differential tuition?
Last year the College of Engineering started charging increased tuition for Engineering students in response to many of these exact concerns that this initiative is addressed at, specifically increasing the offerings of classes that are difficult to get into. It seems to me that this initiative is just a duplicate of the goal of engineering differential tuition for Letters and Sciences, but yet still increases tuition for engineering students without offering them added benefits.
132 votes
AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: Engineering and business majors – who already pay a higher tuition rate in those areas – will benefit significantly from the Madison Initiative for Undergraduates – both in quality and affordability.
Many classes students take to meet degree requirements are offered outside of those schools in areas such as Letters & Science. For example, if you are a business student who needs to take a high-demand mathematics course, this initiative will make it easier to get into that class and graduate in a timely fashion.
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differential tuition not a supportable idea- I am faculty
I am a faculty member - strongly opposed to differential tuition rates based on parental income. Better to keep all tuition equal for everyone - and change support, aid, work/study, grants, etc. to make school more affordable. Differential tuition doesn't benefit students who pay for themselves and is just not a fair manner to pit students against one another essentially (who gets a break, who doesn't)
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How does this help out of state students who already pay mor
Out of state students already have to pay a significant more than in state. Why should we pay more for this initiative if its supposed to help all students equally? Its not fair to tack on extra bills to the already ridiculous cost for out of state students. Especially if financial aid is not going to compensate (not like it does now).
75 votes
AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: There are important investments that need to be made in undergraduate education on our campus in faculty, instructional support and student services. All undergraduate students will benefit from the initiative.
This plan directs the proceeds of the new tuition toward areas of critical need for all students. The proceeds will be used to hire faculty in certain high-demand areas, put more faculty in closer contact with our students, provide other forms of instructional support (including technology-enhanced learning); enhance our academic and career advising across the campus; and enable us to attract the best students without regard to their financial need.
Even after this plan, our tuition – in-state and out-of state — will remain below the median in the Big Ten. We will also be enlisting private financial support for many of these same initiatives as we move forward.
It will also help assure more timely graduation –… more
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What has the University done to streamline its operation?
In business today rationalization of service is essential to cutting over head costs. When you look at the directories of personnel you can see duplication everywhere at UW-Madison. How about looking internally & show you have made an effort to cut costs before burdening students with these additional fees.
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Can we also decrease Martin's pay to enhance affordability?
Since this is apparently all about enhancing an Undergraduate's time here at UW, couldn't we save an extra couple bucks and decrease some salaries around the school? UW is slowly taking away an affordable education for everyone, and quickly taking it away for anyone whose parent are in the upper/middle class.
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Allowances for families with more than one kid in college?
Will there be allowances made for families who make over $80,000 but have more than one child in college? What about a family that makes $100,000 a year and has three kids in college at the same time? They are no more able to afford supplemental tuition than a family who makes $79,000 and has one child in college. It would be a grave error to assume that financial aid will automatically cover the additional burden of the family with more children in college.
44 votes
AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: There are no special allowances for families with more than one student in college, but they would likely qualify for a grant holding them harmless from Madison Initiative increases. Fill out a FAFSA to see if you meet eligibility requirements. Visit the Office of Student Financial Aid, http://www.finaid.wisc.edu.
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How will this initiative be measured?
How will this new initiative be measured to insure it is meeting the objectives of the program? How will these measurements be communitcated back to students and parents to really see that this is really working and is cost effective.
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Is this fair for upperclassmen?
I'm going to be graduating next fall, and I feel the money gained from this initiative will hardly make a difference for me. In fact, it may have no impact on me whatsoever, except for draining my non-existent savings even more.
The problem with classes filling up is mostly an issue in intro-level courses. I'm double majoring in two popular L&S majors, and I have never once been put on a waitlist for a class I need. Why not introduce this for the next entering freshman class and increase it year by year for them and everyone who comes after… more36 votes -
24 votes
AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: We have critical needs for staffing in specific student service areas. Part of the funding generated in the Madison Initiative for Undergraduates will be used to improve student services such as career counseling, first-year interest groups, service learning projects, creating more formal undergraduate research opportunities, applying increased resources to disabled students and applying classroom knowledge in a real-world way through expanded internship opportunities. Enhancements in academic and career advising and essential support services are particularly important at this difficult time when students are in greatest need of strong preparation for the world they will encounter after graduation.
We are also reaching out to students to get their perspectives on where other needs exist and how we can best address them.
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Such hoopla is only fabrication for increasing tuition
In today's economy, it is unresponsible to be thinking about raising tuition. Most entitiy's are looking for ways to cut costs, reduce staff and so on. Is the supplemental tuition , on top of an increase in regular tuition? Also, could you delineate the cost cuts you have come up with, please?
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What efforts have already been made to reallocate faculty?
If some majors have become very popular among students in recent years such as Spanish, economics and biology, yet the number of faculty members in departments have not yet been changed in order to fit the interests of students, shouldn't the reallocation of resources from departments that have become less popular to those that have become more popular be the first step? For those programs like Journalism, Business and Education that reject students, why not just take resources from the departments where those students who aren't admitted end up and reallocate them to those schools. Some of these issues could… more
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Why is the fee schedule different for in and out of state?
If this is to benefit all student services, and is not part of a state initiated tuition increase, then why the higher cost for out of state students - and 3 times the amount, at that.
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Why $80,000?
Clearly some type of cutoff is necessary, but this is too arbitrary and raises serious equity concerns. Is it fair to hold harmless a student whose family makes $79,999, but not $1 more? Is it reasonable to say that $80,000 is the same for a family of 4 from Boston versus a single parent from Marshfield? Better to phase out the grant and vary the income level depending on family attributes.
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14 votes
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Will our input even matter? Will the initiative be changed?
They are asking for our ideas as to what with think about this initiative, but with the chancellor actually listen to us. I went to the forum last night and although she seemed very receptive to our ideas and concerns, I left under the impression that nothing will be changed. This is going to be placed on us no matter what we have to say. This should be put up to a student vote!
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Remove differential tuition.
I believe that we must strive to foster unity on our campus, and increasing tuition on a broad scale is the right approach. However, in Chancellor Martin's message to campus, she takes briefly mentions that the money will primarily be spent for the college of letters and science as that is the most popular school at UW-Madison. She does not address past and future differential tuition increases dumped onto engineering students. Raising tuition for all students in response to a primarily L&S need while raising tuition in smaller schools for their individual needs sends the message that the needs of… more
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AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: The importance of college affordability to Wisconsin and its competitive future cannot be overstated. Today, about 25 percent of all Wisconsin residents have a bachelor’s degree or higher. That number ranks us 35th among all states and well behind neighbors in Minnesota, at 30 percent, and Illinois, at 29 percent. It is imperative that young people from modest economic means, who are frequently first-generation students, share in the life-changing experience of earning a university degree at UW-Madison.
The initiative will help ensure that UW-Madison continues enhance Wisconsin’s economy with its graduates, new start-up companies and entrepreneurship. The university can continue tackling big problems that are inherently cross-disciplinary, such as energy, sustainability, climate change and public health.A real-world focused undergraduate education is something students and their families expect, especially in these challenging times.
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What about international students who do not qualify for aid
What about International students whose parents earn less than $80 000 a year and do not qualify for financial aid under UWMadison?
10 votes
AdminUW-Madison
(Admin, UWMadison) responded
RESPONSE: International students are ineligible to receive regular need-based financial aid, and are not exempted from Madison Initiative tuition increases.
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Will enrollment increase, or will students be redistributed
As a result of this initiative, will overall enrollment increase, or will students be redistributed. For example, will the additional (pick any number - I'll pick 60) 60 students admitted to the nursing program each year be students who would have left after they didn't receive acceptance, or would they have gone on to related majors like Bacteriology, or Medical Microbiology and Immunology? If they're new students, what will their additional tuition pay for? If they're existing students, a study should be made to determine which program those students go to when they are rejected from their ideal program, and… more
10 votes